TR-909 PSU fix

TR-909 - the holy grail of bumm bumm
why would someone drop a 909 to the floor while it´s running?
i got no idea either, but recently it happened to a friend. his TR threw a few sparks before the main fuse of his studio blew and gone was the bumm-bumm :(

not to rain on roland´s designing skills (and given the fact usually you don´t throw a 909 on the floor) but the position of the original PSU board is somehow dangerous for flying 909s; since the AC solder pads directly face the bottom plate any impact in that area possibly short-circuits the main AC power. you better put some cardboard or isolating rubber between the PSU board and the bottom plate - well, it´s best not to throw 909s on the floor too ;)

unfortunatelly in our case the the shorted AC line was led to the voiceboard PCB through the metal battery compartment, blasting a few semiconductors and GND traces there. see the picture for details (note the PSU has been exchanged on the image already):

fried 909 - spark impacts on the bottom plate, smoked battery comparment and blown traces

certainly the main transformer was blown after this accident. as the 909 had to be returned into its productivity environment asap (sic!) there was no time to organize a suitable transformer so i had to exchange the PSU completely…

USE AT YOUR OWN RISK! the following procedure is pretty dangerous. if you don´t know what you´re doing you may cause irreparable damage to your gear or yourself. see the spark damage pics above, you don´t want anything like this occuring to your 909 or your body!

we need three power lines in the 909: +15V, -15V and +5V. the available PSU (meanwell) was pretty big: 159×97x37 mm. i was afraid it was too big but finally found a way to mount it safely inside.

a fourth powerline is the reset circuit. the original roland design derives the reset circuit from the input of its 5V regulator. the reset line must go high shortly after power-on and not drop below 4.7V or the TR will reboot. i think today´s switching PSUs are pretty stable so i took the reset line from the 5V outlet instead and rebuilt the stabilizing reset circuit from the schematics - just discarding the zener diode.

allright. first step is to get out the old PSU and the AC-input jack (we need that space for the new PSU tray). two holes in the backplane are to be drilled:

TR-909 - holes for the tray, new AC input connector

now comes the bitch: a new AC connector hole needs to be drilled and filed. thanks a lot the TR-909 is rock solid made of steel ;) one hour later you´re ready to install the AC input to the power switch and the new PSU. i designed an L-shaped tray to be hooked into three screws on the backplane and bolt down on the voice board mounting screws (with small stand-offs in between). it´s best to test PSU and reset circuit voltages before connecting to the 909 boards. when done it should look like this:

TR-909 - new PSU installed

the power connections are pretty self-explanatory: +15V, -15V, +5V, the reset circuit mentioned above. all the ground connections come to one common ground, we ditch the analog/digital ground separation.

that´s it. another 909 is back to life and thanks to nowaday´s switching power supplies it´s accepting any voltage from 100-250V now. bumm-bumm is back in town. too bad i had to return it to its owner ;)

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4 Responses to “TR-909 PSU fix”

  1. Axel

    Hallo

    das Netzteil in meiner 909 ist auch hinüber…

    Könntest du mir bitte schreiben, welches Netzteil ich brauche, wo ich es kaufen kann etc…also alles um die 909 wieder zum Leben zu erwecken :)

    Danke! :)

  2. ron

    netzteil: +15V (2A), -15V (0,5A), 5V (5A)
    hersteller: meanwell

    segor.de
    emtron.de

  3. Lorne

    any tips on fixing reset issues in old 909 ps? Any info on what the two transistors are that are used for switching?

  4. ron

    have a look at the service manual:
    matrixsynth.blogspot.com/2006/06/roland-tr-909-service-manual.html
    Q701/Q702 maybe 2SC2603?

    don’t remember if C702 was a tantalum capacitor; if so then replace it with an electrolytic (dead tantalums can do a short circuit). also, depending on the serial number of your 909 there might be some factory mods to be performed on the PSU as well, the SM is pretty clear about the different revisions.

    good luck!


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